As you know, my practice focuses on helping people with thyroid and autoimmune thyroid conditions. And while I’d have to say that the majority of patients I work with are solely “hypothyroid” or “hyperthyroid”, there are people who fluctuate back and forth between hyperthyroidism and hypothyroidism. And so the purpose of this blog post is to discuss some of the reasons for this.
Let’s take a look at four different scenarios that can result in both hypothyroid and hyperthyroid symptoms:
Scenario #1: Having the antibodies for both Graves’ disease and Hashimoto’s thyroiditis. It’s actually quite common for people to have antibodies for both Graves’ disease and Hashimoto’s. The antibodies for Graves’ disease are thyroid stimulating immunoglobulins, which is a TSH-receptor antibody. These cause an overproduction of thyroid hormone by binding to the TSH receptor. On the other hand, thyroid peroxidase (TPO) and anti-thyroglobulin antibodies indicate that the immune system is causing damage to structures of the thyroid gland. This can result in symptoms of hypothyroidism, although sometimes they can also result in transient hyperthyroid symptoms, which I’ll discuss next when explaining what Hashitoxicosis is.
So for example, Graves’ disease is characterized by a depressed TSH, elevated thyroid hormones, and elevated thyroid stimulating immunoglobulins. Most people with this presentation will experience hyperthyroid symptoms. However, if they also have TPO and/or anti-thyroglobulin antibodies there is the possibility that they might fluctuate back and forth between hyperthyroidism and hypothyroidism. I can’t say that this fluctuation is common, as usually someone with Graves’ disease is predominantly hyperthyroid, while those with Hashimoto’s usually experience hypothyroid symptoms, although I’ll add that many people with Graves’ disease who also have Hashimoto’s antibodies will eventually become hypothyroid if the autoimmune component isn’t addressed. Keep in mind that it can take years for this to occur.
Scenario #2: Having Hashitoxicosis. I’ve written a separate article on Hashitoxicosis, but I’ll summarize what it is it here. Hashimoto’s thyroiditis is typically diagnosed when someone has an elevated TSH along with TPO antibodies and/or thyroglobulin antibodies. Many people with Hashimoto’s experience hypothyroid symptoms due to the thyroid hormone levels being either less than optimal or overtly low. But why do some people experience hyperthyroidism? As I mentioned in the previous article I wrote, the hyperthyroidism experienced in Hashitoxicosis is caused by the release of preformed thyroid hormones caused by the destruction of thyroid follicles.
So these people might feel hypothyroid at times, but then at other times they essentially get a “flood” of thyroid hormone into the bloodstream, resulting in symptoms of hyperthyroidism. Not only will they feel hyperthyroid, but if they get a blood test during these transient hyperthyroid periods it will reveal hyperthyroidism (low TSH, elevated T3 and T4). Because of this it’s common for these people to be misdiagnosed with Graves’ disease, but this usually could be confirmed or ruled out by testing the thyroid stimulating immunoglobulins. In other words, if someone has a depressed TSH, elevated thyroid hormones (T3, T4), positive TPO and/or thyroglobulin antibodies, and NEGATIVE thyroid stimulating immunoglobulins, then there’s a good chance that the person has Hashitoxocosis and not Graves’ disease.
Scenario #3: Subacute thyroiditis. I can’t say that most people with subacute thyroiditis experience a fluctuation of hyperthyroid and hypothyroid symptoms, but it is possible. I’ve also written a separate article on subacute thyroiditis, as this is usually caused by a virus, and the patient initially presents with hyperthyroidism, and over time will become hypothyroid. So the person starts with hyperthyroidism and then usually becomes hypothyroid within a few months, but unlike Hashitoxicosis, it’s not common for people with subacute thyroiditis to feel hypothyroid one day and then hyperthyroid the next day. I also should mention the research shows that coronavirus-19 can cause subacute thyroiditis, which I discussed in another article.
Scenario #4: Having Hashimoto’s and another condition that causes tachycardia. Tachycardia is an increased resting heart rate, and while this is a common symptom of hyperthyroidism, there can be other conditions that cause this. Not too long ago I wrote a blog post entitled “Tachycardia and Thyroid Health“, and here are some of the factors that can cause an elevated heart rate.
- Hyperthyroidism
- Elevated cortisol levels
- Hypoglycemia
- Dehydration
- Hyperkalemia (high potassium levels)
- Hypomagnesemia (low magnesium)
- Hypocalcemia (low calcium)
- Infections
- Anemia
- Caffeine
- Certain medications
- Pregnancy
- Hypoxia
- Postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome (POTS)
- Histamine intolerance
So for example, if someone has Hashimoto’s and elevated cortisol levels, an infection, or histamine intolerance, they might experience tachycardia at times. Of course tachycardia isn’t the only symptom of hyperthyroidism, but it’s one of the most common symptoms, and so some people will assume they have hyperthyroidism if they have an elevated resting heart rate. But if someone experiences tachycardia and every time they get a thyroid panel it looks fine or is more on the hypothyroid side, then the increased resting heart rate probably isn’t caused by hyperthyroidism.
It can sometimes be challenging to figure out what’s causing the increased resting heart rate. On top of this, the person might have tachycardia and heart palpitations, both of which are common in hyperthyroidism. But once again, just because someone has tachycardia and heart palpitations doesn’t mean they have hyperthyroidism. I also wrote an article entitled “Heart Palpitations and Thyroid Health”, and if you read the article you’ll notice that some of the same factors that can cause tachycardia can also result in heart palpitations.
How Do You Treat These Conditions?
In the first two scenarios listed above you would want to focus on improving the health of your immune system. Regardless of whether someone has the antibodies for Graves’ disease, Hashimoto’s, or both, you want to find and remove triggers, correct underlying imbalances, heal the gut, etc. Of course this is easier said than done, which is why it’s a good idea to work with a competent healthcare practitioner.
As for the symptom management aspect, this is where it can be tricky. If someone consistently is hyperthyroid then chances are they will take antithyroid medication or herbs (assuming they don’t receive radioactive iodine or thyroid surgery), whereas if someone is consistently hypothyroid they are likely to take thyroid hormone replacement. But if they are fluctuating between hyperthyroidism and hypothyroidism then they wouldn’t want to take antithyroid agents or thyroid hormone replacement, and so focusing on the cardiovascular symptoms with a beta blocker or an herb such as motherwort or hawthorn would be an option to consider.
In the case of subacute thyroiditis (Scenario #3), while most people will initially be hyperthyroid for at least a couple of months, many medical doctors are still hesitant to give the person antithyroid medication. Because of this, many people with subacute thyroiditis will be prescribed a beta blocker. I don’t have a problem putting my patients with subacute thyroiditis on bugleweed while closely monitoring their symptoms and thyroid hormone levels. But another option is to refrain from taking any antithyroid agents in this situation and just take something to manage the cardiovascular symptoms.
As for Scenario #4, you of course would want to address the autoimmune component of Hashimoto’s, while trying to figure out the cause of the elevated resting heart rate. Since there are so many factors that can cause tachycardia it can sometimes seem like you’re searching for a needle in a very large haystack.
To summarize, if you were diagnosed with Graves’ disease and experience both hyper- and hypothyroid symptoms then you most likely fall into “Scenario #1”, although it’s also possible that you actually have Hashitoxicosis and not Graves’ disease. On the other hand, if you have been diagnosed with Hashimoto’s and experience both hyper- and hypothyroid symptoms then you can fall under “Scenarios 1, 2, or 4”.
Do You Experience Hypothyroidism AND Hyperthyroidism?
If you fluctuate between hypothyroidism and hyperthyroidism I’d love to hear from you! Do you have the antibodies for both Graves’ disease and Hashimoto’s? Or perhaps you were diagnosed with Hashitoxicosis? Either way I’m sure others who experience the same symptoms would love to hear what your experience has been.
Kaitlyn says
I have both antibodies for Grave’s and Hashimoto’s. I definitely fluctuate between both hypo and hyper. The biggest flags that signal to me whether I’m hypo or hyper are changes in menstrual cycle, changes in resting heart rate and ability to sleep, and I’m pretty sure my appetite gives me a clue. I struggle with muscle cramps in both phases, in my legs mostly. I had a lot of joint stiffness that rheumatologist suspects in RA, so I’m on plaquenill for that. I am not on thyroid meds. We tried Armour Thyroid when my lab work came back hypo but it almost immediately sent me into hyperthyroid and I was miserable.
Brigitte says
Hi,
Im Brigitte from The Netherlands, I have both antibodies but Graves is dominant. Its quit serious because my liver has problems with the medication. They wanted to remove my thyriod. I am for almost a year now in a detox plan. I only eat fruits and veggies. I used herbs and a very little bit of medication. But its hard to detox for So long. Im stil searching for answers and how to get rid of this problem
Janice Schiff says
Just had first vaccine for COVID 8 days ago. Extreme headaches and severe fatigue, finally diminishing.
Was on HRT with functional dr for 9 months developed tachycardia and heart palpitations. With no change in diet (I am dairy free, soy free and gluten free and mostly vegan) gained 30 lbs since starting HRT. Now with high free T3, low free T4, TSH slightly high I am feeling hypothyroid symptoms, still weekly heart palpitations. Want to start losing weight, adjusting my meds down from drs to prevent heart palpitations which is obviously affecting my metabolism. I have had Hashimotos for more than 30 years. Thanks for any feedback.
Patricia Rupchock says
I bet I have a situation that is pretty unique. I have been hypothyroid for decades, developed Graves Disease about 4 years ago. Ultrasound indicated small thyroid and a small nodule. Second ultrasound showed nodule smaller. I got my TSI down to normal with LDN. Have no TPO or anti-thyroid antibodies. And was on T3 for awhile. After a traumatic death in the family, my thyroid would become hyper off and on, as evidenced mainly by heart palpitations and other symptoms. I can no longer take T3 . Every day I never know what my thyroid will be. I take Ecothyroid 37 if I feel it is low and lemonbalm if I feel it is high. I am on a roller coaster and each day can be an unpleasant surprise. Don’t know what else to do.
Karen says
My son had a TT in December due to reoccurring hyperthyroidism (after previous RAI tx) unfortunately thyroid cancer was found. He had another round of RAI in January are is currently still experiencing hyper symptoms— he was recently told to cut his dose of 137 Levo to half.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Kari Due says
I was told I have the Hashimoto TPO antibodies over the summer, but this week I was told I have the TSI Graves antibodies too. I feel very much hyperthyroid for the last 8 years since having my son, but my other lab values are always normal! No doctor has any suggestions for me because they can’t give me any medications since my labs are normal. But I feel awful and would like to work on something! I start to cut out gluten, but how would you know what other foods to cut out if I have felt this way for years? I am also having tons of gallbladder pain and am contemplating surgery, but I know that can cause issues as well. Help!
Sukey says
I took levothyroxine for low thyroid for 16 years. Then my TSH level started to change and My doctor took me off it and continued monitoring with blood tests. About a year (?) later, I was fully hyperthyroid and tested positive for Graves antibodies. Went on medication and became hypo and tested positive for Hashimoto’s antibodies. Never went on medication for that but bounced between hyper- and hypo- a couple times. Have not been tested for many months now. Have never had ANY symptoms at either end of the spectrum. Early on had discussion (after reading your book) with the endocrinologist about finding underlying causes, rather than removing thyroid. She was untrained in this approach but didn’t try to dissuade me from attempting it. At present, and for at least a year now, I have pretty much forgotten about having any kind of thyroid imbalance. Still completely asymptomatic. I will be tested again at some point, now that I’ve been vaccinated againt covid-19 and things are calming down in that area.
Annette Ciampi says
Hello Dr Eric, I am the exception to the rule. I was dx with Graves hyperthyroidism in Feb 2018, TSH was 0.05. I also had an ultrasound which was positive for a goiter though I’m sure it has not increased in size as my neck size hasn’t changed. As for Graves Ophthalmopathy,I have no signs of that & never have. For the last 3 years I have been euthyroid. Now suddenly my TSH is slightly elevated 4.59 ul, T3 free 2.97 & T4 free 1.27. I have been using iodine since 2018. My next step is to test TPO/TPEX & TGAB. Any other ideas? Looking forward to your response.
Linda says
I’ve been going back and forth between hypo and hyper for years with ever increasing frequency, and it’s taken its toll on me physically and emotionally. I was also diagnosed with SVT a few years ago, but didn’t realize until recently the symptoms of SVT are basically the same as hyperthyroid. I can’t take the amount of thyroid med I need to feel better because it causes my pulse to race and other disabling symptoms. I feel like I don’t have a life, I have an existence.